Getting a whole body scan at Nutrition Melbourne provides a scientifically validated measurement of body composition.
Using the latest advancements in multifrequency BIA technology (mfBIA), you get a fast, non-invasive method of screening total body composition.
In addition to a detailed body composition report, you also get a dietitian guided energy and macronutrient report tailored to your needs.
The scan measures over 40 parameters including:
- Lean Muscle Mass
- Skeletal Muscle Mass
- Bone Mineral Content
- Total Body Water
- Intracellular Fluid and Extracellular Fluid
- Body Fat Mass and Total Body Fat Percentage
- Visceral Fat Levels
- Subcutaneous Fat Mass
- Abdominal Circumference
- Waist Hip Ratio
- Segmental Analysis of Muscle and Fat in each Limb
- Basal Metabolic Rate and Total Energy Expenditure
- Calories Based on Goal and Macronutrient Profile
- Bio Age
- Bio Wellness Index
- Fitness Score
- Plus more!
Here is the transcript to the above video regarding body scans in Melbourne including education around mfBIA and DEXA scans
[00:00:00] – Damian
Hi Damian Green Nutrition Melbourne, and I’m here with Kate today, and we’re going to be talking about the body scanner option, which is available at Nutrition Melbourne.
[00:00:09] – Kate
OK, so can you just start by telling us a little bit about the body scanner? And as a client, what sort of information will that give me?
[00:00:18] – Damian
Yep, so the the body scanner that we use is a technique called bio electrical impedance analysis. And essentially what that is, is using a range of impulses at different frequencies which can pass through the body. And we can differentiate between mineral content, protein content, water content, skeletal muscle mass body fat mass. We can we can look at visceral fat. We can look at a whole range of different things and we can look at body composition through your left arm for fatness and and muscle mass and the right arm, left leg and the right leg, in the torso.
[00:00:51] – Damian
That gives us over 40 different parameters that we can look at to get a pretty comprehensive picture of someone’s current body composition. And the reason that that would be relevant is that if we want to look at measuring someone’s progress over time and managing their progress over time, we’ve got to have some really good baseline data. So this gives us a good way to look at where somebody is currently. And then we can do an accurate assessment after a period of time to assess the progress and then potentially, if required, make some adjustments to the nutrition training lifestyle programs accordingly.
[00:01:26] – Kate
How long does it take to have scan?
[00:01:28] – Damian
The scan itself is pretty quick, it only goes for about 60 seconds or so and then the results will take two or three minutes to upload into our platform. And then once they’re in the platform, we’ll bring that up on the screen and we sit down and have a consultation and run through all the numbers together. So all up, it’s probably about a 20 minute process from from start to finish.
[00:01:50] – Kate
So I understand there’s an app that’s attached to the scan up where you can access your personal information. Can you explain a little bit more about that?
[00:02:00] – Damian
That’s free to download is available on Android and Apple stores. It’s a really good platform actually. There’s a whole range of data that’s presented in there, in a really clean, user friendly fashion. So a lot of the times when we’re doing the review consultations, I’ll get people to bring the results up on their app so that I can show them directly in there, because it’s actually probably presented in that app better than it is on the back end, more comprehensive platform that we use from the professional standpoint.
[00:02:27] – Damian
So it’s quite good to go during breaks down all those different parameters, all those 40 plus parameters, in a really easy to understand fashion.
[00:02:35] – Kate
OK, so once you’ve received the details from the scan and that information, then what? So how can you then assist patients once they’ve got a good picture of where they’re at?
[00:02:47] – Damian
So I guess it probably depends on where they start in. So we might have some people that come in and they might be in a relatively healthy weight position, but they could potentially have an elevated, visceral fat mass . Visceral fat is that internal fatty tissue, which is commonly referred to as a toxic fatty tissue. And that can increase the risk of diabetes, heart disease, a whole range of complications. So if we say elevation in visceral fat, then there’s particular nutrition lifestyle training strategies that we would look at to specifically target the movement of that visceral fat.
[00:03:17] – Damian
And there’s a range of different ways that we can use it, and that’s informed based on what we see. So depending on what the the outcomes of the scan are, the intervention will vary accordingly. But we also get a pretty good understanding of our estimated energy requirements and then that can inform ultimately pitching component of your calorie budget and then also looking at macro nutrient profiles off the back of that, we can drive for that information once we’ve got the initial scan data.
[00:03:44] – Kate
OK, there’s the DEXA machine behind you there. Can you explain the difference between the body scanner and a DEXA scan?
[00:03:53] – Kate
So we also offer through separate company a DEXA scan service. DEXA scans are at this point in time under the current government regulations only available for approved research projects.
[00:04:06] – Damian
For most people, that’s not going to be an option for them. DEXA scan uses X-rays. So what comes along with that is radiation exposure. And there’s a limit as to how often you can do that, given the fact that there is some ionizing radiation, the body scanner that we use as the alternative, the BIA or the impedance analysis that doesn’t have any radiation exposure. So we’re not limited in terms of the frequency at which we can do those scans, which is a good thing.
[00:04:33] – Damian
And there is some benefits to the BIA scans as well. On a DEXA scan, we get bone mineral content and we get fat mass and we get lean mass. And there the three main elements that the body is broken up into. And lean mass is muscle, but it’s also water and minerals and glycogen and a whole range of other components which fall under the umbrella of that lean mass profile. When we do a BIA scan, we can actually separate out the muscle mass portion, but we also get a water element of the body as well.
[00:05:04] – Damian
So we can look at those things separately and that’s pretty important. So if someone was to say, drop five kilos in body weight and one kilo came off their lean mass profile, we can see of that one kilo that came off the lean mass profile, how much is muscle mass?
[00:05:20] – Damian
How much is water content? How much is fat mass? So it gives us a pretty complete picture, whereas when we do a DEXA scan we actually just get the lean mass in total and then we have to make some assumptions as to how much of that is muscle or how much water, how much is all those other elements around minerals and glycogen and so on. So we can do that using some informed clinical judgement and experience. But that’s a pretty difficult process. You got to do it for a long time to really understand that with the impedance analysis, we get a breakdown of all those different things.
[00:05:50] – Damian
So it’s actually really insightful to have, especially that a big water component with water being such a large element of the body that can fluctuate dramatically. Having the capacity to look at water separate to the bone and muscle and all those components is a really key feature. And we use a lot.
[00:06:05] – Kate
Another obvious limitation to DEXA is the size of the machine behind you there. It’s not mobile. Where is the new body scanner is. And that’s had some benefits for you in terms of working closely with organisations and their corporate health programs as well as sporting clubs. Tell us a little bit more about that.
[00:06:29] – Damian
Yes the machine is really heavy, hundreds of kilos, and they’re pretty sensitive units, so you don’t really want to be carrying them around town because it’s going to really affect the calibration.
[00:06:39] – Damian
And accuracy is everything with body composition. We work with a range of sporting clubs, professional sporting clubs, elite sporting institutions, and we do scans in-house here in North Melbourne. But what that requires is that people need to come in really early for appointments.
[00:06:57] – Damian
So, you know, there’s obviously limitations that are associated with that. The other machine that we have, the BIA machine, or the impedance analysis, it’s very mobile device so we can take it around to different facilities. We still can retain really good accuracy in the data that comes out and we can deliver it in someone’s workplace or in the sporting club.
[00:07:18] – Damian
So obviously that’s very handy because then we can do a whole group of people in a nice, efficient time manner and we can run through the data on the spot. So, yeah, it’s fantastic from that perspective.
[00:07:30] – Kate
Another space that you’ve used the body scanner with is in gyms and for personal trainers, there’s the obvious benefit that, you know, you can work closely with people’s trainers in terms of their health goals and fat loss goals and things like that. Do they just contact you directly if there’s some interest in terms of doing say groups of scans and things like that.
[00:07:51] – Damian
Yeah, probably the best option is to reach out to us via our Contact US page or [email protected]
[00:07:59] – Damian
I think body scanning for people in gym environments, personal training environments is really smart and very useful because you can have someone within the context of, say, a half a kilo shift on the scales. Someone internally could move four or five kilos with lean mass going up and body fat going down, particularly if they’re really on into the training phase. Now, you might have someone who is relatively new to exercise, who’s coming to your gym or your PT studio.
[00:08:31] – Damian
And, you know, it’s very easy for them to see those changes in a relatively short period of time. But they might be thinking just about a number on the scales and they’re not seeing that no shift in the right direction. But when we look at it at things in a bit more detail, we can say there’s really big changes going on and someone else and a trainer can sort of hyper respond from it, especially from a lean mass perspective. They can quite easily put on a kilo or two of muscle mass just because of the change in their exercise patterns.
[00:09:00] – Damian
So with this information we can look at why circumference measurements, we can look at visceral fat changes, we can look at the muscle mass in the fat mass across the right arm and the left arm and left leg and right leg and torso and get that sort of full picture of what’s going on as well. So it’s really a really smart option and keeps people motivated when they’re seeing potentially only a small change on a scale, but really big changes going on internally in terms of the tissue composition.
[00:09:29] – Kate
So with DEXA due to the radiation exposure, there’s a restriction on how many scans a client can have per year due to safety. You mentioned that’s not an issue with the body scanner because there’s no radiation involved. But how often would you recommend someone, for example, who seeing a personal trainer and trying to lose weight, how frequently should they be getting a scan done to measure their progress?
[00:09:53] – Damian
It can vary a little bit depending on the person’s starting point. So, quite often weight loss is a quicker process than muscle gain. So if someone’s looking at the process of trying to gain weight, then you certainly want to stretch out that time frame in between scans because having a scan in a relatively short timeframe is going to be all that useful. Whereas weight loss, quite often you can see some some big changes in a relatively short period of time.
[00:10:20] – Damian
But it’s important to know that, say, for example, someone does have a really rapid change in their body weight. What you really need to make sure is that we’re keeping that person’s lean mass position under control. So if we lose 10 kilos in body weight, but five kilos comes off their lean mass profile, that’s really not a great ten kilo weight loss. And you can intervene nice and early and, you know, do things to help protect the lean mass position of that individual.
[00:10:45] – Damian
So, during that process, it’ll be a shorter time frame during weight gain, a bit further extended apart. So it can’t really be anywhere between six and 12 weeks as a starting point could be a good initial review time frame, depending on the individual situation, just because it really helps to get a gauge on what is happening and then make adjustments accordingly. But if you’ve got a 12 week plan for someone and potentially you might want to look at them six weeks into the process, because that might give you some information that you can use then to make the necessary adjustments over the following six weeks rather than waiting twelve weeks and realising what you’ve been doing hasn’t had the desired effects.
[00:11:23] – Damian
So it can vary but we can help guide that process depending on the situation.
[00:11:29] – Kate
Yes, it can be really good accountability motivational tool that trainers can use with their clients. So the body scanner can be really good accountability and motivational tool that you can work closely with trainers to get really good results for their clients. And you can you can also offer nutrition support as well.
[00:11:50] – Damian
We focus, our area of expertise is nutrition, so we focus solely on nutrition and working with with personal trainers directly, that can be a really powerful combination.
[00:12:01] – Damian
So we’re certainly happy to work with PT’s who are interested in using body composition measurement and/or nutrition services, because I think it’s a really great service to offer for your clients.
[00:12:11] – Damian
And it’s just, you know, it improves the service that you’re delivering ultimately to your clients.
[00:12:17] – Kate
Yeah, I guess it gives trainers an opportunity to stay in their lane and be an expert in exercise and then outsource that nutrition component where, you know, you can offer that expertise and they can get some really powerful outcomes.
[00:12:31] – Damian
Yeah, that’s right. And we are limited to terms of exercise advice to provide just some basic information. But we’re not the people to come and see to demonstrate how to do an exercise safely and correctly. So we’re always looking for new partners in various areas that our clients can access, that we can refer to for the safe and effective exercise because it’s a crucial component and vice versa. From a training perspective, we would expect that there’d be some PT’s out there who would really benefit and value the input that professional nutrition service can provide to their clients as well.
[00:13:08] – Kate
So how much does it cost to have a scan with a body scanner?
[00:13:12] – Damian
So single scans, $50 and then there’s a range of packages that are available. So a two scan pack is $90, three scan pack is $120 and four scans is $145.
[00:13:25] – Damian
So depending on the number of scans you go, the cost per scan comes down. But it’s it’s money very well spent for sure.
[00:13:32] – Kate
And if you have an organisation or a sporting club or personal trainer that’s interested in you coming out to them and providing that service, that mobile service, they just contact you directly if they’ve got a group of clients or interested in having the scan.
[00:13:48] – Damian
So just contact us directly by the website or [email protected]
[00:13:53] – Damian
You can have a chat and see how many people we’ve got available, arrange a time to come out and do the scans.
[00:13:58] – Damian
It is a very quick process, so very limited disruption to the general schedule for your environment.
[00:14:04] – Damian
But certainly a lot of valuable information that comes out of it.
[00:14:08] – Kate
[00:14:08] – Damian
Cheers, thank you.
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